il y a personne qui vous oblige à quoi que ce soit.
Les terminaux illico sont encore fonctionnel et le seront pour encore un bon moment.
si les services que Vidéotron offrent ne vous conviennent pas, il faut \"voter\" avec votre argent en allant voir ailleurs.
ceci dit, Helix est un nouveau produit... il ne s'adresse pas à tous... si le prix que Vidéotron demande pour ce produit ne vous convient pas, vous n'êtes tout simplement pas le client cible pour ce produit.
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J'ai une formation en technologie du genie electrique spécialisation télécommunication. Je suis programmeur analyste et à mon sens sur tout les niveaux Hélix et déjà bon pour la poubelle.... C'est ça le produit que vous voulez m'obligé à acheter.
il y a personne qui vous oblige à quoi que ce soit.
Les terminaux illico sont encore fonctionnel et le seront pour encore un bon moment.
si les services que Vidéotron offrent ne vous conviennent pas, il faut \"voter\" avec votre argent en allant voir ailleurs.
ceci dit, Helix est un nouveau produit... il ne s'adresse pas à tous... si le prix que Vidéotron demande pour ce produit ne vous convient pas, vous n'êtes tout simplement pas le client cible pour ce produit.
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Information sur Helix (FAQ)","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:17939"},"body":"Anonyme
M. Anonyme Je suis un fan fini de Vidéotron... Pourquoi??? C'est l'un de nos fleurons québécois et je vais toujours supporter mes frères, mes cousins. Ici il n'est pas juste question d'Argent $$$$... J'ai deux cellulaires, internet, la télé près de $3000/ans avec Vidéotron. C'est presqu'un paiement de voiture...
Dans les années 80 bien avant illico... et votre expérience personnel... Vidéotron a été un des pionniers dans la télé interactives. Sa technologie avangardiste a même été exporter en angleterre... Une fierté Québécoise.
Aujourd'hui Vidéotron se met à jour.. oui a jour... avec sa proposition IPTV... et oui avec l'OBLIGATION d'acheter un équipement déjà désuet...
Vous payez M. Anonyme 10$/mois location/achat pour un appareil qui selon vidéotron vaut 250$. (36x10=360$) et ça c'est juste pour la borne... et vous êtes lié à ce sujet sur un contrat de 3ans sur un équipement déjà désuet... et sa va vite aujourd'hui...
Ici on est sur un forum d'entraide???? Entraide pour qui???? Je suis pas le support technique de Vidéotron... Je suis un client fidèle, technophile et averti...
Vidéotron nous arrives aujourd'hui avec une proposition IPTV... et l'OBLIGATION d'cheter leur matériel qui est déjà désuet... La proposition n'est pas saine et technologiquement parlant pas à la saveur du jour... M.Anonyme. Il n'y a aucune raison que je ne puisse pas bénéficier d'un service IPTV de Vidéotron avec mes propres équipements... Que vidéotron offre des forfaits clé en main permettant d'accéder à cette technologie... ok... Pour des clients comme vous qui se contente de peux. Mais qu'il OBLIGE l'achat de leur équipement (location/achat) dans un écosystème totalement fermé et une abhération...
Faites une recherches sur GOOGLE M. Anonyme \"IPTV\" et pour moins de $200/ans vous pourrez accéder à des dizaines de milliers de chaînes IPTV dans le mondes y inclus québec... est-ce moralement légale???? non!!! est-ce illégale???? non!!!
Et votre réponse ben si vous êtes pas content aller ailleurs est innacceptable et de bas niveau$$$... Je ne laisserais pas mon cousin Vidéotron sans lui mettre en face cette réalité...
Tiens juste pour le fun M.Anonyme Je vous invite à vous ouvrir sur ce qui se passe dans le monde...
Allez voir molotov.tv en europe... totalement gratuit 36 chaînes télé full HD et oui M.Anonyme la télé c'est pas un luxe en 2019 c'est un service considéré essentiel... aller visité le CRTC la télé se doit d'être accessible à tous et ce gratuitement...
En ses sens Vidéotron à base ce doit d'offir qu'un service d'antenne....
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Effectivement quitter parce que tu préfères le produit du compétiteur ou sa promotion, c'est normal, un produit peut pas rencontrer tous les besoins.
Tout comme d'autres quitteront leur fournisseur pour adopter le produit de Videotron. Au final, l'effet de certains départs est nul et pas très inquiétant.
Par contre, quand le produit te plait mais ce sont des irritants et/ou des modalités qui t'écoeurent au point de vouloir tout rejeter, là t'as tout intérêt à picosser de l'intérieur et à faire assez de bruit pour que ça se rende aux responsables. Les responsables sont sensibles aux plaintes ou du moins, devraient l'être. S'ils font bien leur job, ils ont tout intérêt à être à l'écoute. Morale : faut pas se gener à faire du bruit même si ça dérange ceux qui préfèrent la douce harmonie.
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lepou a écrit :Anonyme
M. Anonyme Je suis un fan fini de Vidéotron... Pourquoi??? C'est l'un de nos fleurons québécois et je vais toujours supporter mes frères, mes cousins. Ici il n'est pas juste question d'Argent $$$$... J'ai deux cellulaires, internet, la télé près de $3000/ans avec Vidéotron. C'est presqu'un paiement de voiture...
Dans les années 80 bien avant illico... et votre expérience personnel... Vidéotron a été un des pionniers dans la télé interactives. Sa technologie avangardiste a même été exporter en angleterre... Une fierté Québécoise.
Aujourd'hui Vidéotron se met à jour.. oui a jour... avec sa proposition IPTV... et oui avec l'OBLIGATION d'acheter un équipement déjà désuet...
Vous payez M. Anonyme 10$/mois location/achat pour un appareil qui selon vidéotron vaut 250$. (36x10=360$) et ça c'est juste pour la borne... et vous êtes lié à ce sujet sur un contrat de 3ans sur un équipement déjà désuet... et sa va vite aujourd'hui...
Ici on est sur un forum d'entraide???? Entraide pour qui???? Je suis pas le support technique de Vidéotron... Je suis un client fidèle, technophile et averti...
Vidéotron nous arrives aujourd'hui avec une proposition IPTV... et l'OBLIGATION d'cheter leur matériel qui est déjà désuet... La proposition n'est pas saine et technologiquement parlant pas à la saveur du jour... M.Anonyme. Il n'y a aucune raison que je ne puisse pas bénéficier d'un service IPTV de Vidéotron avec mes propres équipements... Que vidéotron offre des forfaits clé en main permettant d'accéder à cette technologie... ok... Pour des clients comme vous qui se contente de peux. Mais qu'il OBLIGE l'achat de leur équipement (location/achat) dans un écosystème totalement fermé et une abhération...
Faites une recherches sur GOOGLE M. Anonyme \"IPTV\" et pour moins de $200/ans vous pourrez accéder à des dizaines de milliers de chaînes IPTV dans le mondes y inclus québec... est-ce moralement légale???? non!!! est-ce illégale???? non!!!
Et votre réponse ben si vous êtes pas content aller ailleurs est innacceptable et de bas niveau$$$... Je ne laisserais pas mon cousin Vidéotron sans lui mettre en face cette réalité...
Tiens juste pour le fun M.Anonyme Je vous invite à vous ouvrir sur ce qui se passe dans le monde...
Allez voir molotov.tv en europe... totalement gratuit 36 chaînes télé full HD et oui M.Anonyme la télé c'est pas un luxe en 2019 c'est un service considéré essentiel... aller visité le CRTC la télé se doit d'être accessible à tous et ce gratuitement...
En ses sens Vidéotron à base ce doit d'offir qu'un service d'antenne....
tout d'abord, le M. que je suis à voté avec son argent... je me suis désabonné de la TV il y a un bon moment déjà car justement les fournisseurs comme Vidéotron et même Bell ne répondent plus à mes besoins (trop cher pour ce que ça donne).
Ma suggestion pour vous était la même que j'ai appliqué à ma propre situation... soit voter avec son argent et aller voir ailleurs avec des services qui conviennent mieux aux besoins. Pas plus compliqué que ça...
Il y a beaucoup trop de gens qui paient, paient et paient encore pour des trucs qu'ils n'utilisent même pas à la plaine capacité. Avec les offres de services \"légaux\" ici et là, on a amplement le choix maintenant de payer pour quelque chose qui va convenir beaucoup mieux, que ça soit au niveau prix, au niveaux des trucs offerts ou une combinaison des deux.
pour les service IPTV à moins de $200 par année, la plupart sont illégaux. Donc ce n'est pas une référence.
Pour ce qui est de l'europe (à tout le moins ce qui se fait en France), les gens paient une redevance TV sur leurs impôts annuels... ce qui explique la gratuité ou le très bas prix de plusieurs chaines/services télé.
Moi aussi je suis un simple client, également technophile et avertit... la différence avec vous par contre est je suis probablement moins fidèle (Vidéotron doit vous aimer beaucoup pour cette fidélité)... je donne la chance au courreur... mais si les services offerts ne me conviennent plus, je ne m'entête pas à faire bouger un monstre qui ne s'en va visiblement pas dans la même direction que je désire aller.
lepou a écrit :Anonyme
M. Anonyme Je suis un fan fini de Vidéotron... Pourquoi??? C'est l'un de nos fleurons québécois et je vais toujours supporter mes frères, mes cousins. Ici il n'est pas juste question d'Argent $$$$... J'ai deux cellulaires, internet, la télé près de $3000/ans avec Vidéotron. C'est presqu'un paiement de voiture...
(....)
Je crois plutôt, M. Lepou, que vous faites très bien d'exprimer aussi clairement votre message, même si c'est de façon trop tonitruante pour certains.
Changer de fournisseurs n'est pas toujours un message bien interprêté. Ça passe trop souvent pour des clients volages qui partent et qui, de toutes façons, sont remplacés par de nouveaux tout aussi volages. L'effet est normal dans un contexte de compétition et souvent nul. Vaut donc mieux laisser un message clair qui laissera des traces parce qu'écrit.
Et dans votre cas, le message est très limpide, c'est le moins qu'on puisse dire, et assez fort pour qu'il trouve son chemin vers des décideurs. Et je ne crois pas qu'il puisse être mal interprété. :) Alors vous faites très bien d'exprimer votre désenchantement en utilisant ce forum... et c'est l'outil pour ça, n'en déplaise aux oreilles trop délicates.
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Anonyme Bien répondu :-)
J'allais écrire sensiblement la même chose. Pis on est sur un forum d'entraide, pas de plaignage pis de chailage. (me semble) Moi, Helix, j'en suis satisfait.... sachant que c'est toujours en développement.
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Mar--Thé a écrit :Anonyme
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Moi, Helix, j'en suis satisfait.... sachant que c'est toujours en développement.
Et on peut savoir d'où vous detenez cette assurance qu'on va développer des correctifs et des améliorations à Helix???
La plate-forme est sous licence de Comcast, alors ça va venir d'où ce \"développement\"?
À la sortie de Illico 2, on nous promettait aussi des développements nombreux et \"rapides\" sur \"Illico 2\", puisque Videotron avait maintenant pris le plein controle du développement de son système. Je me souviens qu'à la fin de la 1re année de Illico 2, j'avais, comme plusieurs, soumis une liste d'ameliorations et d'irritants à corriger. Ben, il n'y a en pas eu de developpements. Même pas de Illico 2.1. Par contre, Illico 2 était un excellent système développé par des gens d,ici et il a été bien entretenu.
Mais pour tous les irritants et espoirs d'améliorations d'Illico 2, on a dû vivre avec pendant 7-8 ans et on a fini par s'habituer avec qu'on avait... et à oublier les irritants. Point. Je ne pense que ce soit très différent avec Helix. Moi, je mise davantage sur la pression que doit subir Comcast pour mettre au gout du jour son système vieillissant.
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pleduc a écrit :Et on peut savoir d'où vous detenez cette assurance qu'on va développer des correctifs et des améliorations à Helix???
La plate-forme est sous licence de Comcast, alors ça va venir d'où ce \"développement\"?
Ya des déploiments d'update environ au 2-3 semaine. Il n'y a pas toujours des MAJ de nouvelles foncitonnalitées (du moins, pas comme au début pendant les test) mais les updates sont constantes.
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