BB-8, quand tu dis « l'intégration de la VoLTE est un gros plus pour les clients vidéotron », je serais d'accord avec toi si comme d'autres fournisseurs le font, Vidéotron ouvrait VoLTE à tous les téléphones. Ils gardent la dépendence sur le 3G.
les autres fournisseurs n'ouvrent pas le VoLTE à tous les appareils... certains sont plus \"permissifs\", mais ce n'est pas grand ouvert à tous les téléphone.
Le problème est surtout au niveau des appareils Android. Avec les iPhones, peu importe si tu achète ton iPhone d'Apple, de Videotron, Rogers, Telus, Bell... alouette... le iPhone aura le même hardware et le même software. Donc aucun problème pour Vidéotron pour supporter le VoLTE sur tous les iPhones peu importe leur provenance (m'a femme a un iPhone 7 acheté chez Apple directement... et il fonctionne sur le VoLTE). ,
Par contre pour les Appareil Android, ça peut être différents...
Pour le hardware, pas mal tous les appareils vendus au Canada sont identique... par contre pour le software, c'est là qu'il peut y avoir une différence. Pour les Pixel/Nexus, aucune raison que Vidéotron ne supporte pas les appareils vendus par d'autres fournisseurs car tout comme les iPhone, le hardware ou software est identique. Pour les autres fabricants, là ça peut être différent.
ex pour les Samsung, le hardware et software sont identique... par contre il y a une configuration sur l'appareil spécifique pour chacun des fournisseurs (le CSC). avec le mauvais CSC, le VoLTE pourrait ne pas fonctionner. Il y a moyen de changer le CSC toi même sans trop de soucis, mais ce n'est pas supporté par Samsung ou par aucun autre fournisseur. Et si jamais l'appareil fait défaut, tu pourrais avoir des problèmes avec le service de garantie de Samsung si le CSC a été changé. Certaines personnes ont réussi à avoir le VoLTE et Wifi calling avec certains fournisseurs Canadiens en changeant le CSC... mais il a parfois fallu appeler le fournisseur pour faire ajouter le IMEI dans la base de données pour que le VoLTE soit permis.
Pour les appareils \"génériques\" comme OnePlus, Vidéotron doit les tester pour être en mesure de certifier qu'ils sont fonctionnels sur leur réseau en VoLTE... pour le 911 entre autre... si le 911 ne fonctionne pas pour une quelconque raison sur certains appareils, le fournisseur pourrait être dans le gros trouble.
Pour les autres appareils, cela peu nécessiter une firmware différent.
Le support du VoLTE n'est pas \"simple\"... c'est un peu plus complexe à gérer que les appels sur le 3G.
J'ai eu un problème avec Vidéotron avec un iPhone 6s (qui n'est pas supporté par le VoLTE chez Vidéotron). Pour une raison quelconque, le VoLTE était activé dans mon compte sur cette ligne. Même si le service à la clientèle enlevait cette option dans mon compte, l'option restait activé dans la \"switch\" téléphonique. Ce qui faisait en sorte que je ne pouvais pas faire ou recevoir d'appel. On a finalement réglé le problème avec le support réseau de 2e niveau en envoyant une commande manuelle à la switch pour enlever cette option. Si le VoLTE était activé \"wide open\" à tous, Vidéotron pourrait se ramasser avec ce genre de problème.
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, quand tu dis « l'intégration de la VoLTE est un gros plus pour les clients vidéotron », je serais d'accord avec toi si comme d'autres fournisseurs le font, Vidéotron ouvrait VoLTE à tous les téléphones. Ils gardent la dépendence sur le 3G.
les autres fournisseurs n'ouvrent pas le VoLTE à tous les appareils... certains sont plus \"permissifs\", mais ce n'est pas grand ouvert à tous les téléphone.
Le problème est surtout au niveau des appareils Android. Avec les iPhones, peu importe si tu achète ton iPhone d'Apple, de Videotron, Rogers, Telus, Bell... alouette... le iPhone aura le même hardware et le même software. Donc aucun problème pour Vidéotron pour supporter le VoLTE sur tous les iPhones peu importe leur provenance (m'a femme a un iPhone 7 acheté chez Apple directement... et il fonctionne sur le VoLTE). ,
Par contre pour les Appareil Android, ça peut être différents...
Pour le hardware, pas mal tous les appareils vendus au Canada sont identique... par contre pour le software, c'est là qu'il peut y avoir une différence. Pour les Pixel/Nexus, aucune raison que Vidéotron ne supporte pas les appareils vendus par d'autres fournisseurs car tout comme les iPhone, le hardware ou software est identique. Pour les autres fabricants, là ça peut être différent.
ex pour les Samsung, le hardware et software sont identique... par contre il y a une configuration sur l'appareil spécifique pour chacun des fournisseurs (le CSC). avec le mauvais CSC, le VoLTE pourrait ne pas fonctionner. Il y a moyen de changer le CSC toi même sans trop de soucis, mais ce n'est pas supporté par Samsung ou par aucun autre fournisseur. Et si jamais l'appareil fait défaut, tu pourrais avoir des problèmes avec le service de garantie de Samsung si le CSC a été changé. Certaines personnes ont réussi à avoir le VoLTE et Wifi calling avec certains fournisseurs Canadiens en changeant le CSC... mais il a parfois fallu appeler le fournisseur pour faire ajouter le IMEI dans la base de données pour que le VoLTE soit permis.
Pour les appareils \"génériques\" comme OnePlus, Vidéotron doit les tester pour être en mesure de certifier qu'ils sont fonctionnels sur leur réseau en VoLTE... pour le 911 entre autre... si le 911 ne fonctionne pas pour une quelconque raison sur certains appareils, le fournisseur pourrait être dans le gros trouble.
Pour les autres appareils, cela peu nécessiter une firmware différent.
Le support du VoLTE n'est pas \"simple\"... c'est un peu plus complexe à gérer que les appels sur le 3G.
J'ai eu un problème avec Vidéotron avec un iPhone 6s (qui n'est pas supporté par le VoLTE chez Vidéotron). Pour une raison quelconque, le VoLTE était activé dans mon compte sur cette ligne. Même si le service à la clientèle enlevait cette option dans mon compte, l'option restait activé dans la \"switch\" téléphonique. Ce qui faisait en sorte que je ne pouvais pas faire ou recevoir d'appel. On a finalement réglé le problème avec le support réseau de 2e niveau en envoyant une commande manuelle à la switch pour enlever cette option. Si le VoLTE était activé \"wide open\" à tous, Vidéotron pourrait se ramasser avec ce genre de problème.
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Le réseau 302-500 a des tours trop loins les unes des autres pour être fiable.
Mon garçon a aussi changé d'appareil et celui-ci va beaucoup mieux à l'école. De plus, il peut maintenant utiliser VoLTE et VoWiFi.
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J'ai trouvé ce qui se passe.
Quand le signal LTE est faible, on passe au 3G.
Quand on reçoit un appel sans VoLTE, on passe au 3G
Quand on passe au 3G,
- il y a Vidéotron sur la bande AWS1 (1700/2100, appelée 4 pour LTE)
- il y a Rogers sur les bandes CLR (850 - ou 5 en LTE) et PCS (1900 ou 2 en LTE)
Vous me suivez? Maintenant le problème...
Vidéotron sur AWS1 en 3G = mauvaise qualité d'appel (ça je le savais déjà) et AUCUNE données. J'ai bien dit AUCUNE données. Vérifié sur 3 téléphones... Ça en explique beaucoup. Je vais retester de temps à autre.
Donc la solution originale de \"le laisser à automatique\" accentue le problème.
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Quand le signal LTE est faible, on passe au 3G.
Quand on reçoit un appel sans VoLTE, on passe au 3G
Quand on passe au 3G,
- il y a Vidéotron sur la bande AWS1 (1700/2100, appelée 4 pour LTE)
- il y a Rogers sur les bandes CLR (850 - ou 5 en LTE) et PCS (1900 ou 2 en LTE)
Vous me suivez? Maintenant le problème...
Vidéotron sur AWS1 en 3G = mauvaise qualité d'appel (ça je le savais déjà) et AUCUNE données. J'ai bien dit AUCUNE données. Vérifié sur 3 téléphones... Ça en explique beaucoup. Je vais retester de temps à autre.
Donc la solution originale de \"le laisser à automatique\" accentue le problème.
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Une photo vaut mille mots...
gmd - le lien de tes photos semble mort .
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