Ils m'ont dit qu'ils allaient faire un suivi et me rappeler.
Python-1m'a contacté en privé pour me demander si j'ai été contacté.
Je n'ai pas reçu de réponse pour l'instant.
J'ai confiance en Vidéotron.
Je pense que Vidéotron va éventuellement régler ce problème de Message-ID dans Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170621 64bit .
C'est un problème qui rend l'offre Internet de Vidéotron moins intéressante pour les boîtes courriels.
J'ai pensé à m'installer sendmail et postfix sur un serveur.
Mais je préfère laisser Vidéotron régler le problème.
Linus Torvalds a accepté ma patch au noyau Linux:
","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:internet-telephonie"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:11232"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"sebhtml"},"postTime":"2018-11-02T21:24:46.214-04:00","kudosSumWeight":0}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3w1fDE2OjAsNDE6MXwz","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":12110,"body":"Salut,
Sur l'Internet, *tous* les messages de courriels doivent avoir un idenfiant unique Message-ID.
Voir:
Vidéotron ré-écrit *tous* les Message-ID des messages entrant (voir mon premier message), ce qui est incorrect.
J'ai contacté Vidéotron directement (support technique) en octobre (j'avais laissé mes coordonnées à un agent Vidéotron).
J'ai écrit mon message sur ce forum le 2018-10-27. Aujourd'hui, nous somme le 2018-12-16.
Vidéotron n'a pas fait de suivi.
Vidéotron n'a pas réglé le problème.
Donc, je conclus que Vidéotron n'est pas intéressé à fournir un service de courriels qui respecte les standards.
Alors, j'ai cessé d'utilisé mon adresse sebhtml@videotron.qc.ca.
En remplacement, j'ai loué un serveur et j'ai configuré mes propres logiciels (postfix, smtpd, dovecot, saslauthd). opendkim). Mon adresse est maintenant seb@boisvert.info .
Comme ça, j'ai une boîte de courriels hébergé au Québec (comme celle de Vidéotron), qui n'est pas chez les géants informatiques américains, et qui respecte les standards établis (pas comme celle de Vidéotron).
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Bonjour,
J'ai un problème avec ma boîte de courriels Vidéotron.
J'aimerais savoir si des membres du forum ont le même problème.
Le champs \"Message-id\" de tous les courriels que je reçois dans ma boîte Vidéotron ne sont pas les originaux.
Et donc, quand je réponds, le destinataire ne sait pas à quel message ma réponse est destinée (champs In-Reply-To).
Voici ce qui m'est arrivé concrètement:
Le 24 octobre, Andrew Morton (développeur Linux) a répondu à un sujet que je suis:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20181024154316.810676f4b8eb9be637a34e28@linux-foundation.org/
Le Message-id de ce message est:
Message-Id: <20181024154316.810676f4b8eb9be637a34e28@linux-foundation.org>
J'ai répondu en utilisant mon compte courriel Vidéotron:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/d48b2b1b-201a-d350-6bda-943a66f1abfb@videotron.qc.ca/
Le In-Reply-To est:
In-Reply-To: <FRrzgp7InaOtKFRs0geay1@videotron.ca>
Hors, ce In-Reply-To fait référence au message FRrzgp7InaOtKFRs0geay1@videotron.ca .
Ce message n'existe pas...
Le bon In-Reply-To devrait être plutôt:
In-Reply-To: <20181024154316.810676f4b8eb9be637a34e28@linux-foundation.org>
La raison est que Vidéotron change le Message-ID de tous les messages que je reçois.
Voici le message que j'ai reçu dans ma boîte Vidéotron: https://pastebin.com/raw/s1reTUSF
Le message-id est:
Message-id: <FRrxg2vE96CPfFRrzgFy52@videotron.ca>
Voici le même message, en version original:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20181024154316.810676f4b8eb9be637a34e28@linux-foundation.org/raw
Le message-id est:
Message-Id: <20181024154316.810676f4b8eb9be637a34e28@linux-foundation.org>
Les champs Message-id et In-Reply-To sont standards.
J'aimerais donc recevoir mes courriels avec les Message-id originaux non-modifiés.
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Bonjour,
J'ai un problème avec ma boîte de courriels Vidéotron.
J'aimerais savoir si des membres du forum ont le même problème.
Le champs \"Message-id\" de tous les courriels que je reçois dans ma boîte Vidéotron ne sont pas les originaux.
Et donc, quand je réponds, le destinataire ne sait pas à quel message ma réponse est destinée (champs In-Reply-To).
Voici ce qui m'est arrivé concrètement:
Le 24 octobre, Andrew Morton (développeur Linux) a répondu à un sujet que je suis:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20181024154316.810676f4b8eb9be637a34e28@linux-foundation.org/
Le Message-id de ce message est:
Message-Id: <20181024154316.810676f4b8eb9be637a34e28@linux-foundation.org>
J'ai répondu en utilisant mon compte courriel Vidéotron:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/d48b2b1b-201a-d350-6bda-943a66f1abfb@videotron.qc.ca/
Le In-Reply-To est:
In-Reply-To: <FRrzgp7InaOtKFRs0geay1@videotron.ca>
Hors, ce In-Reply-To fait référence au message FRrzgp7InaOtKFRs0geay1@videotron.ca .
Ce message n'existe pas...
Le bon In-Reply-To devrait être plutôt:
In-Reply-To: <20181024154316.810676f4b8eb9be637a34e28@linux-foundation.org>
La raison est que Vidéotron change le Message-ID de tous les messages que je reçois.
Voici le message que j'ai reçu dans ma boîte Vidéotron: https://pastebin.com/raw/s1reTUSF
Le message-id est:
Message-id: <FRrxg2vE96CPfFRrzgFy52@videotron.ca>
Voici le même message, en version original:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20181024154316.810676f4b8eb9be637a34e28@linux-foundation.org/raw
Le message-id est:
Message-Id: <20181024154316.810676f4b8eb9be637a34e28@linux-foundation.org>
Les champs Message-id et In-Reply-To sont standards.
J'aimerais donc recevoir mes courriels avec les Message-id originaux non-modifiés.
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Effectivement j’ai fait le test avec le compte videotron... et le messageid est changé du côté de Vidéotron.
mon premier instinct serait de vous dire de contacter le support technique à ce sujet... mais j’ai bien l’impression qu’on ne saura pas de quoi vous parlez.
esperons que quelqu’un ici pourra prendre cela en charge... mais j’ai un énorme doute à ce sujet.
en tk, j’espère pour vous qu’il y aurait une solution à ce sujet...
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mon premier instinct serait de vous dire de contacter le support technique à ce sujet... mais j’ai bien l’impression qu’on ne saura pas de quoi vous parlez.
esperons que quelqu’un ici pourra prendre cela en charge... mais j’ai un énorme doute à ce sujet.
en tk, j’espère pour vous qu’il y aurait une solution à ce sujet...
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Lorsque j'ai appelé le support technique de Vidéotron, la personne a été très à l'écoute du problème.
La personne a communiqué avec un ingénieur qui s'y connait.
Ils m'ont dit qu'ils allaient faire un suivi et me rappeler.
Python-1m'a contacté en privé pour me demander si j'ai été contacté.
Je n'ai pas reçu de réponse pour l'instant.
J'ai confiance en Vidéotron.
Je pense que Vidéotron va éventuellement régler ce problème de Message-ID dans Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170621 64bit .
C'est un problème qui rend l'offre Internet de Vidéotron moins intéressante pour les boîtes courriels.
J'ai pensé à m'installer sendmail et postfix sur un serveur.
Mais je préfère laisser Vidéotron régler le problème.
Linus Torvalds a accepté ma patch au noyau Linux:
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Lorsque j'ai appelé le support technique de Vidéotron, la personne a été très à l'écoute du problème.
La personne a communiqué avec un ingénieur qui s'y connait.
Ils m'ont dit qu'ils allaient faire un suivi et me rappeler.
Je n'ai pas reçu de réponse pour l'instant.
J'ai confiance en Vidéotron.
Je pense que Vidéotron va éventuellement régler ce problème de Message-ID dans Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170621 64bit .
C'est un problème qui rend l'offre Internet de Vidéotron moins intéressante pour les boîtes courriels.
J'ai pensé à m'installer sendmail et postfix sur un serveur.
Mais je préfère laisser Vidéotron régler le problème.
Linus Torvalds a accepté ma patch au noyau Linux:
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Sur l'Internet, *tous* les messages de courriels doivent avoir un idenfiant unique Message-ID.
Voir:
Vidéotron ré-écrit *tous* les Message-ID des messages entrant (voir mon premier message), ce qui est incorrect.
J'ai contacté Vidéotron directement (support technique) en octobre (j'avais laissé mes coordonnées à un agent Vidéotron).
J'ai écrit mon message sur ce forum le 2018-10-27. Aujourd'hui, nous somme le 2018-12-16.
Vidéotron n'a pas fait de suivi.
Vidéotron n'a pas réglé le problème.
Donc, je conclus que Vidéotron n'est pas intéressé à fournir un service de courriels qui respecte les standards.
Alors, j'ai cessé d'utilisé mon adresse sebhtml@videotron.qc.ca.
En remplacement, j'ai loué un serveur et j'ai configuré mes propres logiciels (postfix, smtpd, dovecot, saslauthd). opendkim). Mon adresse est maintenant seb@boisvert.info .
Comme ça, j'ai une boîte de courriels hébergé au Québec (comme celle de Vidéotron), qui n'est pas chez les géants informatiques américains, et qui respecte les standards établis (pas comme celle de Vidéotron).
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Salut,
Sur l'Internet, *tous* les messages de courriels doivent avoir un idenfiant unique Message-ID.
Voir:
Vidéotron ré-écrit *tous* les Message-ID des messages entrant (voir mon premier message), ce qui est incorrect.
J'ai contacté Vidéotron directement (support technique) en octobre (j'avais laissé mes coordonnées à un agent Vidéotron).
J'ai écrit mon message sur ce forum le 2018-10-27. Aujourd'hui, nous somme le 2018-12-16.
Vidéotron n'a pas fait de suivi.
Vidéotron n'a pas réglé le problème.
Donc, je conclus que Vidéotron n'est pas intéressé à fournir un service de courriels qui respecte les standards.
Alors, j'ai cessé d'utilisé mon adresse sebhtml@videotron.qc.ca.
En remplacement, j'ai loué un serveur et j'ai configuré mes propres logiciels (postfix, smtpd, dovecot, saslauthd). opendkim). Mon adresse est maintenant seb@boisvert.info .
Comme ça, j'ai une boîte de courriels hébergé au Québec (comme celle de Vidéotron), qui n'est pas chez les géants informatiques américains, et qui respecte les standards établis (pas comme celle de Vidéotron).
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